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01/26/2010

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Dan Jelly

"grass roots" support is one thing, but finding a couple of friends to stuff the virtual ballot box and flood social media with your name is something else entirely.

I'm all for change, fresh blood, etc, but so far I'm not impressed.

Social media will play a big role in all future elections, but it seems that some candidates really don't understand how it works, and how quickly it can backfire.

Tom Robertson

I this voting fraud why Mr. DiFalco's site The Hamiltonian is on hiatus and not being updated.

Tom Robertson

DiFalco had 100 fraudulent votes taken away from him. This could be what happens when you send a flock of believers out to campaign for you while you sit back quietly not stating your intentions

Elizabeth V

Fradulant Votes Tom I dont think so. The only fradulant thing is that draft a mayor is fixed. It is not putting up everyones votes.

Cal for Mayor all the way!

Markalanwhittle

Looks like the Draft-a-Mayor site has been hacked by someone, as yet unknown.

I'm sure Ken Audziss has an explaination as to how this came about and where these fradulent votes originated.

One thing for sure, I would be leery of letting the company affiliated with the site set up an election web site for me if I was a candidate, their programming might not be secure, as we have seen.

Despite all that, Cal's numbers are still increasing, unlike the others of which nobody has declared a campaign yet for Mayor.

Likely, none of them will, as almost half of council has already kicked off their campaigns and registered to run in their respective wards.

By the way Tom, I see from the official city of Hamilton web site Mayor Fred still hasn't bothered to oficially register for Mayor either, so no fundraising can commence. Don't you find that odd?

Dan Jelly

Well said Tom, but 'flock' is probably overstating it. I suspect much of the voting has been done by a few individuals with free throw-away email accounts.

What many people need to realise is that a lot of information can be recorded each time you visit a web site. I.P. address, the name of your service provider, even details such as your operating system and browser brand and version, the resolution of your monitor, the list goes on. (look up google analytics for an example)

If one or two people were to try to run up an individual's total on draftamayor.com over a short period of time it would become very obvious to the administrators.

Also, I don't doubt that the same thing is going on here and will continue to happen until the election. Multiple posts supporting a single candidate under different names might seem like a solid plan to overwhelm voters with your message, but it wouldn't be difficult to uncover the truth.

I smell a rat.

Tom Robertson

Dan that is why I don't take the comments of those who won't back up there opinion with there name seriously. Maybe Emma could enlighten us if IP numbers of posters are recorded here and if multiple posters have been detected.

Elizabeth it might not take your vote if you are trying to post a second or third vote under another name. It's funny when draft a mayor showed difalco with a false big lead the flock thought the site was the cat's ass.

Markalanwhittle

Dan, I found out how it was done through contacting the nice folks at Momentuum, the election company affiliated with the Draft-a-Mayor web site.

Here's the gist of their reply;

"DraftAMayor.com was not “hacked” there was an issue related to multiple votes from a single source through the manipulation of IP addresses."

Which begs the question, who did it and why?

Hamiltonians sick and tired of games

This post is to the person in charge of it. We the readers would like to know why our posts about Cal DiFalco are not being posted. I am appaled to think the Spec is in on this scam with draft a mayor. Let see if you have the guts to print this.

Mike Russell

The opinions expressed in social media are the opinions of the people who take the time to write them. They don't neccessarily reflect the opinions of the community or the majority.

Anyone who thinks that the views expressed on public forums are those of the majority is fooling themselves. Public forums are more often than not used by special interest groups to promote their points of view.

This comments section isn't too bad since we get a wide range of views that don't neccessarily reflect the opinions of special interests. This topic seems to be the exception to the rule. This newspapers sister paper the Toronto Star is a good example of how comment sections can be highjacked by special interests. It is widely known as a liberal paper and yet the bulk of comments are made by very organized conservative groups. It's not hard to tell when you get the same talking points comming up over and over by multple posters.

Social media can be a good outlet to blow off a little steam, but it does not reflect the opinions of the masses, but rather the opinions of the few that are inclined to share their opinions.

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